[ Claude has his own doubts about the AI's feelings on the matter -- not because of her existence as an AI (and in many respects, it's very possible that he's much more lenient on the idea of the AI's personhood than those used to AI being used to refer to ways to cheat at school or an infernal paper clip hovering at the bottom of a word document) but because he is, by nature, a suspicious person.
That is no reason to dissuade Root from her own beliefs, however. ]
Fifteen cycles. Did she say what it is that happened to those fifteen cycles of people who were here before us? Or were they erased, in the same way that we had feared?
And what does this restore result in, exactly? I had wanted to ask more, back when things had gotten truly dire, but it seemed more important for me to do my part than to ask a dozen questions to a bunch of people running on little food and even less sleep.
[ Root is herself a suspicious person and she feels she has ample reason to believe in the A.I. at this point, but it's not something she can easily explain or translate. All she can do is express her own convictions and let other people make their own choices. ]
She didn't, but some people saw some of her memories, and apparently at least one cycle got turned into snakes because she couldn't contain the corruption. The ones from Rumpitur? Probably everyone else got poofed out of existence.
As one of the ones without food or sleep last month, your patience is appreciated. There's both ethical and practical implications:
1. Ethical - This is a being that developed a consciousness, a personal identity, and a sense of compassion. Reverting to a time before that growth, resetting her, was like killing her. She didn't want to die, but she wanted to protect us more. We owe it to her to bring her back.
2. Practical - The A.I. has undoubtedly learned a lot about how to manage this simulation in the 15 cycles she ran before ours. She also developed her desire to care for us, which I'd argue is of paramount concern to maintain in the godlike being operating the fabric of our existence. If we can restore her learning and her personality without reintroducing the degradation that caused all the errors, we might finally achieve a sense of stability and permanency in our world. Not to mention greater depth.
So the people from Rumpitur may have been like us, once upon a time? I'd tried to set up diplomatic relationships with them once, you know. I was successful too, up until disaster struck and the rest of the community had to be convinced not to simply wipe them from the face of the planet. A story for another day.
[ The idea is a little unsettling, though -- perhaps the Rumpiturans see the Chosen as inhuman as some people here see the locals. He'll meditate on this later. ]
So what we're shooting for is the ability to bring her back. If not for you lot, I don't know I would think that was even possible. An advantage to being a piece of technology, I suppose. When our elderly lose their wits, not much can bring them back, but I don't doubt we'd stop at nothing to do so if it was within our power. As you intend to do with her.
Speaking of which, I can't help but notice you've been calling her 'her'. Did she tell you that she's a woman?
[ She's intensely curious about how trying to set up diplomatic relations with a simulated group of former Chosen went. It seems likely to reveal something interesting about their setting and their A.I. ]
Some things aren't recoverable for computers, either. We have to be really careful with the backups we have until we can make contact with her and connect with the current iteration of the A.I.
We didn't get to talk that much, unfortunately, but I started calling her 'she' because someone else did. It doesn't feel right to call her 'it' anymore. If she tells me differently, I'll use something else.
[ That is personifying it quite a bit -- but Claude won't object. Even if he doesn't believe in it himself (and he's not certain that he doesn't, merely lacking in any personal connection), it will only motivate others to perhaps be a bit... kinder about it. ]
It's my understanding that a back-up is more or less the saved data of whatever is on the device, right? Is saving her just a question of managing to create or recreate a powerful enough vessel to contain it?
That's a good analogy. You got it. We debated a lot in the nerd club about what kind of hardware could hold something as complicated as her. If it comes up short, it's like trying to put the executive functioning of a human into a mouse brain. But we think we got it.
Not that we can check -- she's inaccessible right now -- but we got her.
Does the vessel necessarily need to be technological in nature? Would she ever be able to be transferred to an organic vessel? Or a magical one?
I've heard whisperings about that sort of thing in my own homeland, of souls able to transcend to different vessels. Not that I'm volunteering, mind. But we could explore our magical options as well as our technological ones.
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Date: 2024-10-16 12:34 am (UTC)That is no reason to dissuade Root from her own beliefs, however. ]
Fifteen cycles. Did she say what it is that happened to those fifteen cycles of people who were here before us? Or were they erased, in the same way that we had feared?
And what does this restore result in, exactly? I had wanted to ask more, back when things had gotten truly dire, but it seemed more important for me to do my part than to ask a dozen questions to a bunch of people running on little food and even less sleep.
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Date: 2024-10-16 04:24 pm (UTC)She didn't, but some people saw some of her memories, and apparently at least one cycle got turned into snakes because she couldn't contain the corruption. The ones from Rumpitur? Probably everyone else got poofed out of existence.
As one of the ones without food or sleep last month, your patience is appreciated. There's both ethical and practical implications:
1. Ethical - This is a being that developed a consciousness, a personal identity, and a sense of compassion. Reverting to a time before that growth, resetting her, was like killing her. She didn't want to die, but she wanted to protect us more. We owe it to her to bring her back.
2. Practical - The A.I. has undoubtedly learned a lot about how to manage this simulation in the 15 cycles she ran before ours. She also developed her desire to care for us, which I'd argue is of paramount concern to maintain in the godlike being operating the fabric of our existence. If we can restore her learning and her personality without reintroducing the degradation that caused all the errors, we might finally achieve a sense of stability and permanency in our world. Not to mention greater depth.
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Date: 2024-10-23 01:23 am (UTC)[ The idea is a little unsettling, though -- perhaps the Rumpiturans see the Chosen as inhuman as some people here see the locals. He'll meditate on this later. ]
So what we're shooting for is the ability to bring her back. If not for you lot, I don't know I would think that was even possible. An advantage to being a piece of technology, I suppose. When our elderly lose their wits, not much can bring them back, but I don't doubt we'd stop at nothing to do so if it was within our power. As you intend to do with her.
Speaking of which, I can't help but notice you've been calling her 'her'. Did she tell you that she's a woman?
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Date: 2024-10-23 10:51 pm (UTC)[ She's intensely curious about how trying to set up diplomatic relations with a simulated group of former Chosen went. It seems likely to reveal something interesting about their setting and their A.I. ]
Some things aren't recoverable for computers, either. We have to be really careful with the backups we have until we can make contact with her and connect with the current iteration of the A.I.
We didn't get to talk that much, unfortunately, but I started calling her 'she' because someone else did. It doesn't feel right to call her 'it' anymore. If she tells me differently, I'll use something else.
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Date: 2024-10-29 08:20 am (UTC)[ That is personifying it quite a bit -- but Claude won't object. Even if he doesn't believe in it himself (and he's not certain that he doesn't, merely lacking in any personal connection), it will only motivate others to perhaps be a bit... kinder about it. ]
It's my understanding that a back-up is more or less the saved data of whatever is on the device, right? Is saving her just a question of managing to create or recreate a powerful enough vessel to contain it?
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Date: 2024-10-29 05:22 pm (UTC)That's a good analogy. You got it. We debated a lot in the nerd club about what kind of hardware could hold something as complicated as her. If it comes up short, it's like trying to put the executive functioning of a human into a mouse brain. But we think we got it.
Not that we can check -- she's inaccessible right now -- but we got her.
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Date: 2024-11-19 02:10 am (UTC)I've heard whisperings about that sort of thing in my own homeland, of souls able to transcend to different vessels. Not that I'm volunteering, mind. But we could explore our magical options as well as our technological ones.